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Ar Conte ištemps vieną sezoną?

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Re: Treneris/Trenerių štabas

Standartinė eNjoy » 11 Lie 2018, 18:56

marko6 rašė:Permokės 10 mln oi daug dabartinėm rinkos kainom.reikia džiaugtis kad dar perka gerus žaidejus.

What? Esmė, kad smaukėsi be reikalo du mėnesius, o rezultate gaunam tą patį.
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Standartinė Pntmstr » 11 Lie 2018, 20:16

Bobutės lidlo eilėj kalba (©), kad reikalai pajudėjo, kai Romanas pagaliau pastūmė Marinka į antrą planą ir pats su Neapolio bachūrais išgėrė ne vieną litrą įvairių skysčių
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Re: Treneris/Trenerių štabas

Standartinė Samir » 12 Lie 2018, 07:56

eNjoy rašė:Šiaip gaila ir gėda visų pirma dėl tokio elgesio su Conte. Žmogus ruošėsi priešsezoniui, atvyko ir spėjo pravest kelių dienų treniruotes, nors turbūt pats neabejojo, kad bus praspirtas. Pasielgėm, kaip koks šūdklubis, ir taip nekokiai reputacijai dar labiau atsilieps.

Conte visiškai negaila. Būtų norėjęs, būtų galėjęs išeit pats - ir po tokio sezono, suprantant, kad dirbai nesėkmingai, tikslų nepasiekei ir nelabai kam klube esi reikalingas, būtų visai gražus žingsnis. Plius ir pats turėtum daugiau laiko kitą darbą susirast dar iki sezonui prasidedant, o ne eit vėliau kur nors kaip gelbėtojas.
O jei pasirenki sėdėt ir laukt išeitinės, tai jau susitaikyk, kad ne viskas gali labai sklandžiai vykti.
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Standartinė Phect » 12 Lie 2018, 10:29

Samir rašė:O jei pasirenki sėdėt ir laukt išeitinės, tai jau susitaikyk, kad ne viskas gali labai sklandžiai vykti.

Barclay's robotukų centro Lietuvoje vadovybė sveikina tokį požiūrį. :lol:
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Standartinė velnes » 12 Lie 2018, 10:43

Phect rašė:
Samir rašė:O jei pasirenki sėdėt ir laukt išeitinės, tai jau susitaikyk, kad ne viskas gali labai sklandžiai vykti.

Barclay's robotukų centro Lietuvoje vadovybė sveikina tokį požiūrį. :lol:

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Re: Treneris/Trenerių štabas

Standartinė Scientist » 12 Lie 2018, 17:42

Viskas, Conte atleistas :(

Vis dar nesutinku su sprendimu ir manau, kad su daugiau supporto būtų gerą komandą vėl subūręs, bet oh well, bent pagaliau pajudėjom iš šito pato.
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Standartinė petrofanas » 12 Lie 2018, 19:23

Scientist rašė:Viskas, Conte atleistas :(

Vis dar nesutinku su sprendimu ir manau, kad su daugiau supporto būtų gerą komandą vėl subūręs, bet oh well, bent pagaliau pajudėjom iš šito pato.

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Standartinė marko6 » 12 Lie 2018, 19:28

Rašo kad 9 mln svarų.
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Re: Treneris/Trenerių štabas

Standartinė Pntmstr » 12 Lie 2018, 22:08

Samiro logika tai tiesiog wow :lol:
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Standartinė petriukas » 12 Lie 2018, 22:40

o dar geriau reikejo palikti kaip sari napolio klube. turet nauja treneri o jis tegul metus vaiksto i ofisa ir sedi ramiai kabinete arba treniruoja 12mecius
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Re: Treneris/Trenerių štabas

Standartinė Scientist » 12 Lie 2018, 23:01

Kaip suprantu, kažkas iš klubo per Telegraphą nuleakino visą santykių su Conte istoriją iš klubo pusės, kuri pateikia visai kitokį vaizdą. Kadangi straipsnis mokamas, tiesiog nukopinu žemiau (kaip kad žmonės ir kituose forumuose daro)

> It was the 10 days last summer during which Chelsea could not get in touch with their head coach that the relationship between the club and Antonio Conte was terminally eradicated.
> And there has been some sense of revenge about the way in which the Blues left Conte in the dark over his future after May’s FA Cup final success, even allowing him to return for the start of pre-season training on Monday.
> There were few congratulations from on high after Conte’s team beat Jose Mourinho’s Manchester United at Wembley. Instead, there was largely silence that lasted until the inevitable was finally conveyed after he had taken training on Thursday.
> Some sources still believe Conte was last year considering an offer from Inter Milan, when he did not pick up the telephone, return messages or respond to emails.
> Whatever the exact reasons behind it, Conte’s disappearing act sent Chelsea into a state of panic and convinced them he wanted out. Peace talks were hastily arranged and a new contract was eventually signed as a reward for winning the Premier League title. But, tellingly, there was no extension.
> Nobody could be sure Conte would not pull a similar trick again and Chelsea did not want to be liable for more than one year’s money if, as has transpired, they decided to sack the Italian.
> It was not just Chelsea who had become suspicious, however, as Conte also lost faith in his employers during a summer in which he felt none of his main targets were signed.
> Conte wanted Romelu Lukaku, Alexis Sanchez, Alex Sandro and Virgil van Dijk, but by the time Chelsea returned for pre-season on July 10 last year Lukaku had joined Manchester United instead and the Blues’ only outfield signing, Antonio Rudiger, was not ready to start training after playing in the Confederations Cup for Germany.
> With a Premier League trophy to use as a bargaining chip against club policy, Conte felt empowered to take on his employers. He warned people their jobs were on the line and that they would see ‘the real Antonio Conte’ if he did not get what he wanted.
> He is still rated as one of the best coaches the club has ever employed, but there is a feeling that Conte’s judgement became clouded at key points by an obsession to prove he was right.
> There was bemusement from within the squad when he called a pre-season meeting to supposedly welcome Chelsea’s new signings and introduced Paolo Vanoli and Davide Mazzotta, who had joined his backroom staff.
> For a short while nobody knew whether or not Conte was being serious, but it quickly became clear that he was underlining the fact there were no new players for him to show off.
> Former technical director Michael Emenalo is believed to have been in the room for Conte’s joke that highlighted the gap that was already developing between the 48-year-old and his board.
> Of course, one player who had not been part of the pre-season meeting was Diego Costa, who effectively went on strike in Brazil after being informed he was no longer part of Conte’s plans over text message.
> That move went down spectacularly badly inside the Chelsea boardroom, as Conte had acted without their approval and had risked damaging Costa’s value.
> The message was also forwarded throughout the Chelsea squad, who were astonished that the club’s top scorer in their title-winning campaign could be treated in such a way – even though he had been causing problems since rowing with Conte last January.
> More difficulties with members of his squad surfaced during the season, as Conte dropped David Luiz after the Brazilian was perceived to have questioned his tactics during a stormy inquest in which Kenedy was given a dressing down for yawning.
> Injuries contributed to his absence, but Luiz only played five times after the thrashing in Rome, which took place in October and Kenedy was loaned out to Newcastle United in January.
> The 5-0 victory over Stoke City on December 31 meant that, despite all the angst, Chelsea finished 2017 in second place in the Premier League and still in all of the cup competitions.
> But tensions boiled up again during a January transfer window in which Conte wanted the Blues to back him with bids for Sanchez and Sandro, both of whom he believed were available.
> He had not spoken with anybody more senior than Emenalo, who left Chelsea in November, between August and December, and his requests were unsurprisingly ignored. In the end, he had to be content with Olivier Giroud, Emerson Palmieri and Ross Barkley.
> Conte had nothing against Giroud, who proved to be a shrewd addition, or Emerson, but felt that, while United were pushing the boat out for Sanchez, Chelsea were trying to strengthen from the substitutes’ benches of Arsenal and Roma.
> Once January passed and the transfer window had shut, Conte once again cut himself off from his employers and serious consideration was given to making a change after the embarrassing defeats to Bournemouth and Watford.
> Rather than sack him mid-season and land themselves with a huge compensation bill, Chelsea decided to see if they and Conte could ride out the storm together.
> But any hope of Champions League qualification was effectively eradicated by the successive defeats to Manchester United and City, when Conte’s tactics were widely condemned, along with his use of Eden Hazard as a false nine.
> Hazard had been prepared to sacrifice himself for the supposed greater good up to that point, but sometime after the City loss the Belgian was pulled aside by Conte and had his commitment questioned.
> Chelsea have desperately been trying to convince Hazard to sign a new £300,000-a-week contract, but word quickly got round that he was becoming annoyed by his head coach and it showed on the pitch.
> More fall-outs were to follow, as Conte dropped Rudiger for giving a television interview in which he appeared to question the team’s approach and the former Juventus coach screamed at his squad that they were all "s\\\*" during half-time in the Premier League victory over Southampton, in which Chelsea came back from two goals behind.
> The FA Cup final success over United provided some consolation, but not even that could mask the disharmony in the background as Willian posted a picture on social media of the squad celebrating with carefully placed trophy emojis to hide Conte.
> Luiz and Willian would have never played for Chelsea again while Conte was in in charge and there is every likelihood others would have been frozen out as well.
> In his post-match press conference at Wembley, Conte repeated seven times ‘I can’t change’ which pretty much told Chelsea everything they needed to know and had Roman Abramovich reaching for the reset button once again – even if it took some time for him to press it.
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Standartinė Furis » 13 Lie 2018, 09:26

Tai kad praleidžiant visus spėjimus ir nepatvirtintus dalykus (Some sources still believe Conte was last year bla bla bla), :up: nelabai kuo keičia vaizdą.

Ir šiaip, įdomu kada pats klubas teiksis viešai pasakyti, kad Contes nebėra. Nes kad Antonijus praspirtas mums sako Skysports, o puslapyje treneris vis dar jis :lol:
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Standartinė Scientist » 13 Lie 2018, 10:18

Furis rašė:Tai kad praleidžiant visus spėjimus ir nepatvirtintus dalykus (Some sources still believe Conte was last year bla bla bla), :up: nelabai kuo keičia vaizdą.

Ir šiaip, įdomu kada pats klubas teiksis viešai pasakyti, kad Contes nebėra. Nes kad Antonijus praspirtas mums sako Skysports, o puslapyje treneris vis dar jis :lol:

Nu keičia tiek, kad atsiranda naujų faktų, kaip kad tas 10 dienų periodas kai jis buvo dingęs ir kiti., kurie akivaizdu yra klubo bandymas scorint PR taškų šitam konflikte ir nupiešia Conte kaip ne tokį pozityvų, fanų mylimą veikėją.

O viešai klubas paskelbs matyt tada, kai susitars dėl išeitinės, kurią vis dar bando numušti pagal gandus.
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Standartinė Samir » 13 Lie 2018, 10:48

Phect rašė:Barclay's robotukų centro Lietuvoje vadovybė sveikina tokį požiūrį. :lol:

Gal nelyginam eilinio darbuotojo, gaunančio per metus 20 ar 30 tūkstančių, su top lygio treneriu, gaunančiu 10 mln. Nu negroja labai gyvenimo kokybei Contes išeitinė ir nėra jam tie pinigai labai svarbūs paskolą už butą Pilaitėje mokant, kaip bežiūrėsi.
O jei jau pasirenki pinigus (kas irgi fair enough) tai neatrodo didelė skriauda, kad klubas tave liepą atleidžia, o ne gegužę.
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Standartinė Scientist » 13 Lie 2018, 11:04

Samir rašė:
Phect rašė:Barclay's robotukų centro Lietuvoje vadovybė sveikina tokį požiūrį. :lol:

Gal nelyginam eilinio darbuotojo, gaunančio per metus 20 ar 30 tūkstančių, su top lygio treneriu, gaunančiu 10 mln. Nu negroja labai gyvenimo kokybei Contes išeitinė ir nėra jam tie pinigai labai svarbūs paskolą už butą Pilaitėje mokant, kaip bežiūrėsi.
O jei jau pasirenki pinigus (kas irgi fair enough) tai neatrodo didelė skriauda, kad klubas tave liepą atleidžia, o ne gegužę.

O kuo Contes pragyvenimo lygis ir finansinė skriauda keičia šitus du dalykus?
1. Išeitinė jam priklauso pagal sutartį.
2. Su vienu sėkmingiausių klubo treneriu elgiamasi šlykščiai ir nepagarbiai.

Ir dar čia dabar bandai pripiešti, lyg praeitas sezonas buvo toks epic fail'as, kad čia nebuvo kitų variantų kaip tik atsistatydinti ir slėptis tris metus kalnuose iš gėdos, nors 99,9% klubų po tokio sezono trenerių neatleidžia ir po panašių rezultatų darbus tęsė tiek Pepas, tiek van Gaalas, tiek Mourinho (tik gavę papildomus kelis šimtus milijonų pirkiniams vietoj atleidimo lapelio).
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